Comments on: DELAG: The World’s First Airline http://www.airships.net The Graf Zeppelin, Hindenburg, U.S. Navy Airships, and other Dirigibles Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:19:12 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jason Wallace http://www.airships.net/delag-passenger-zeppelins#comment-6422 Jason Wallace Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:01:31 +0000 http://www.airships.net/?page_id=1167#comment-6422 Dear Dan and nick H This sounds like a very good idea as hydrogen is one of if not the most abundant lifting gas known to man if such a thing could be used in modern Zeppelins for passenger transport between the continents and cities through out europe and all over the world it would be like nick said safety and effeciencey all in one what would the possibility of that ?? and as for the tests on the hindenburg with this concept i knew nothing of it how did it work and what was the result if either of you could tell me i would be much obliged cheers yuors sincerely Jason Wallace Dear Dan and nick H
This sounds like a very good idea as hydrogen is one of if not the most abundant lifting gas known to man if such a thing could be used in modern Zeppelins for passenger transport between the continents and cities through out europe and all over the world it would be like nick said safety and effeciencey all in one what would the possibility of that ?? and as for the tests on the hindenburg with this concept i knew nothing of it how did it work and what was the result if either of you could tell me i would be much obliged
cheers
yuors sincerely Jason Wallace

]]> By: Jason Wallace http://www.airships.net/delag-passenger-zeppelins#comment-6421 Jason Wallace Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:52:57 +0000 http://www.airships.net/?page_id=1167#comment-6421 Dear Nathan how do you know this ? if so i would be delighted to know more about it cheers yours sincerely Jason Wallace Dear Nathan
how do you know this ? if so i would be delighted to know more about it

cheers

yours sincerely Jason Wallace

]]> By: john mcdevitt http://www.airships.net/delag-passenger-zeppelins#comment-6190 john mcdevitt Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:14:12 +0000 http://www.airships.net/?page_id=1167#comment-6190 p.s. Previous post I meant to say LZ 8. LZ 8 was the crash that taught Hugo Eckener to be more cautious about wind conditions. With the right conditions, a Zepplin actually the ideal vehicle for sight seeing. If the Antena that juts off the top of the Empire state building could be moved somehow. The mooring mast below could be used for what it was designed to do. Talk about a fantastic arrival. Can you imagine passing customs on the 100th floor of the iconic skyscraper. Now thats an arrival. p.s. Previous post I meant to say LZ 8. LZ 8 was the crash that taught Hugo Eckener to be more cautious about wind conditions. With the right conditions, a Zepplin actually the ideal vehicle for sight seeing. If the Antena that juts off the top of the Empire state building could be moved somehow. The mooring mast below could be used for what it was designed to do. Talk about a fantastic arrival. Can you imagine passing customs on the 100th floor of the iconic skyscraper. Now thats an arrival.

]]> By: john mcdevitt http://www.airships.net/delag-passenger-zeppelins#comment-6188 john mcdevitt Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:05:16 +0000 http://www.airships.net/?page_id=1167#comment-6188 Beside its horrific crash the Hindenburg accident is most likely the singular most massive public relations catastrophe of all time. The Zepplin's demise was assured on that fiery field in New Jersey. After 1936 no one wanted to fly in a Zep. But there is a lesson in Hugo Eckeners intense caution after the L Z crash. He had felt pressure from passengers to fly that day which he gave in to resulting in a total loss. Life flight helecopters have a methodology that dirigibles should co-opt. Weather conditions play no factor in a helicopter pilots decision to fly. A truly objective 2nd source makes the decision unrelated to type of accident or severity. In this way a pilot does not get influenced to fly in bad conditions to say save a child or making a rash decision. An independent agency etc. could be objective and not influenced by profit or upset sight seers that a Zepplin operator might cave into. And with a better safety record the dirigible industry as a whole would benefit. Beside its horrific crash the Hindenburg accident is most likely the singular most massive public relations catastrophe of all time. The Zepplin’s demise was assured on that fiery field in New Jersey. After 1936 no one wanted to fly in a Zep. But there is a lesson in Hugo Eckeners intense caution after the L Z crash. He had felt pressure from passengers to fly that day which he gave in to resulting in a total loss. Life flight helecopters have a methodology that dirigibles should co-opt. Weather conditions play no factor in a helicopter pilots decision to fly. A truly objective 2nd source makes the decision unrelated to type of accident or severity. In this way a pilot does not get influenced to fly in bad conditions to say save a child or making a rash decision. An independent agency etc. could be objective and not influenced by profit or upset sight seers that a Zepplin operator might cave into. And with a better safety record the dirigible industry as a whole would benefit.

]]> By: Dan (Airships.net) http://www.airships.net/delag-passenger-zeppelins#comment-5003 Dan (Airships.net) Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:21:05 +0000 http://www.airships.net/?page_id=1167#comment-5003 Actually that very arrangement was studied for use aboard Hindenburg at one point, and a test was performed with a cell-within-a-cell. Actually that very arrangement was studied for use aboard Hindenburg at one point, and a test was performed with a cell-within-a-cell.

]]> By: Nick H. http://www.airships.net/delag-passenger-zeppelins#comment-4988 Nick H. Thu, 08 Jul 2010 22:24:51 +0000 http://www.airships.net/?page_id=1167#comment-4988 Hydrogen only reacts with an oxidizing compound, so what would happen if there was a Zeppelin with hydrogen cells that were surrounded by helium, which doesn't react with anything? That way, you'd get safety and increased lifting power in the same package. Also, a light frame could be made out of stronger lighter materials like carbon fiber or some other type of light strong material. I mean come on man! This is the future! We can do it! Hydrogen only reacts with an oxidizing compound, so what would happen if there was a Zeppelin with hydrogen cells that were surrounded by helium, which doesn’t react with anything? That way, you’d get safety and increased lifting power in the same package. Also, a light frame could be made out of stronger lighter materials like carbon fiber or some other type of light strong material. I mean come on man! This is the future! We can do it!

]]> By: Sean http://www.airships.net/delag-passenger-zeppelins#comment-4987 Sean Thu, 08 Jul 2010 21:48:30 +0000 http://www.airships.net/?page_id=1167#comment-4987 I could think of a number of reasons why it would be cheaper to operate today. Electric winches could replace a lot of the grounding crew. Compressors could compress the helium in for landing and decompress for takeoff, instead of venting it and refilling. Also, helium is much cheaper today, and there are a million polymers and plastics that could replace the cow-intestine helium bags, and hull skin. If I had the money, i would start a zepplin airtravel company. I cant see it being practical for transcontenental travel, (since jets are so much faster) but it could be like a recreational cruiseship for the air! to fly over america at 60mph or so an be just a couple thousand feet above the ground. I could think of a number of reasons why it would be cheaper to operate today. Electric winches could replace a lot of the grounding crew. Compressors could compress the helium in for landing and decompress for takeoff, instead of venting it and refilling. Also, helium is much cheaper today, and there are a million polymers and plastics that could replace the cow-intestine helium bags, and hull skin. If I had the money, i would start a zepplin airtravel company. I cant see it being practical for transcontenental travel, (since jets are so much faster) but it could be like a recreational cruiseship for the air! to fly over america at 60mph or so an be just a couple thousand feet above the ground.

]]> By: Sean http://www.airships.net/delag-passenger-zeppelins#comment-4985 Sean Thu, 08 Jul 2010 21:37:18 +0000 http://www.airships.net/?page_id=1167#comment-4985 the LZ-129 Hindenburg was originally desighned to be filled with helium, but they couldnt get ahold of enough before the scheduled flight to america, and used hydrogen instead. I was just up last night thinking of how cool it would be to build another helium filled Hindenburg (LZ-129), and started looking it up online. im glad to find that others share my dream... Zepplins have gotten an aweful bad wrap from weather related crashes, But i know technology has advanced enough to prevent that. the LZ-129 Hindenburg was originally desighned to be filled with helium, but they couldnt get ahold of enough before the scheduled flight to america, and used hydrogen instead. I was just up last night thinking of how cool it would be to build another helium filled Hindenburg (LZ-129), and started looking it up online. im glad to find that others share my dream… Zepplins have gotten an aweful bad wrap from weather related crashes, But i know technology has advanced enough to prevent that.

]]> By: nathan http://www.airships.net/delag-passenger-zeppelins#comment-4277 nathan Wed, 19 May 2010 12:43:54 +0000 http://www.airships.net/?page_id=1167#comment-4277 Airshps will return as australia alredy has plans for passenger airships and has built one. Airshps will return as australia alredy has plans for passenger airships and has built one.

]]> By: Vlastimil Cech http://www.airships.net/delag-passenger-zeppelins#comment-4262 Vlastimil Cech Tue, 18 May 2010 10:13:13 +0000 http://www.airships.net/?page_id=1167#comment-4262 What about artifical gas? I heart of tri-fluor-methane or di-flour methane... German scientists tried to find something for the replace highly explosive hydrogen and out of reach helium... What about artifical gas? I heart of tri-fluor-methane or di-flour methane… German scientists tried to find something for the replace highly explosive hydrogen and out of reach helium…

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