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		<title>By: Kevin Olson</title>
		<link>http://www.airships.net/hindenburg#comment-2491</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea that Hindenburg used duraluminum from R-101. That is pretty spooky. Great website!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea that Hindenburg used duraluminum from R-101. That is pretty spooky. Great website!</p>
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		<title>By: John Borrego</title>
		<link>http://www.airships.net/hindenburg#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>John Borrego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,
Any idea what happened to the remains of the Hindenburg after the crash?  It would be interesting to imagine all that aluminum eventually being made into B-17s and sent back to Germany, so to speak.
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
Any idea what happened to the remains of the Hindenburg after the crash?  It would be interesting to imagine all that aluminum eventually being made into B-17s and sent back to Germany, so to speak.<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Colin McLeod</title>
		<link>http://www.airships.net/hindenburg#comment-811</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a printed list of travellers (crew + passengers) on the Hindenburg&#039;s journey from Rio de Janeiro on 2 December 1936. I&#039;m happy to send a scan of it to anyone who would find this information of interest. 
Colin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a printed list of travellers (crew + passengers) on the Hindenburg&#8217;s journey from Rio de Janeiro on 2 December 1936. I&#8217;m happy to send a scan of it to anyone who would find this information of interest.<br />
Colin</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Horn</title>
		<link>http://www.airships.net/hindenburg#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Horn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan!

A few weeks ago I had to make an offer for a huge (1/5 scale), flying &quot;Hindenburg&quot; model for a movie project and I finally got asked if it would be possible to recreate the &quot;Hindenburg&quot; in 1/1 scale...!!!
My rather superficial research resulted in a devastating answer. First, as there is almost no know-how on how to build large rigid airships anymore, the total cost for engineering, construction and flight tests would add up to more than 1 billion dollars.
Second, for an exact replica of the &quot;Hindenburg&quot; it would be almost impossible to get a certificate of airworthiness according to modern standards, even if the airship will be equipped with modern avionics and a fly-by-wire system.

When the the 9 million-dollar partial replica in the Zeppelin Museum Friedrichshafen was designed, the engineers encountered all the problems associated with recreating an advanced old Zeppelin airship.
Though a complete set of drawings was available (but few assembly drawings), it took them months to find out how the pieces must be put together. By employing cardboard models they found the one and only way in which the different pieces can be riveted together. This only gives a slight impression on how it would be to rebuild the complete &quot;Hindenburg&quot;.

Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan!</p>
<p>A few weeks ago I had to make an offer for a huge (1/5 scale), flying &#8220;Hindenburg&#8221; model for a movie project and I finally got asked if it would be possible to recreate the &#8220;Hindenburg&#8221; in 1/1 scale&#8230;!!!<br />
My rather superficial research resulted in a devastating answer. First, as there is almost no know-how on how to build large rigid airships anymore, the total cost for engineering, construction and flight tests would add up to more than 1 billion dollars.<br />
Second, for an exact replica of the &#8220;Hindenburg&#8221; it would be almost impossible to get a certificate of airworthiness according to modern standards, even if the airship will be equipped with modern avionics and a fly-by-wire system.</p>
<p>When the the 9 million-dollar partial replica in the Zeppelin Museum Friedrichshafen was designed, the engineers encountered all the problems associated with recreating an advanced old Zeppelin airship.<br />
Though a complete set of drawings was available (but few assembly drawings), it took them months to find out how the pieces must be put together. By employing cardboard models they found the one and only way in which the different pieces can be riveted together. This only gives a slight impression on how it would be to rebuild the complete &#8220;Hindenburg&#8221;.</p>
<p>Andreas</p>
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		<title>By: Dan (Airships.net)</title>
		<link>http://www.airships.net/hindenburg#comment-640</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan (Airships.net)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please see the discussion in the comments above.</description>
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		<title>By: Eliot</title>
		<link>http://www.airships.net/hindenburg#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure, take the $2,600,000 put it through measuringworth and then pick the top one on the list...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure, take the $2,600,000 put it through measuringworth and then pick the top one on the list&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan (Airships.net)</title>
		<link>http://www.airships.net/hindenburg#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan (Airships.net)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you let us know how you calculated that estimate? </description>
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		<title>By: Eliot</title>
		<link>http://www.airships.net/hindenburg#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i did a bit more resurch and estemated a cost of 
$43,193,503.09 to build the hindenberg today!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i did a bit more resurch and estemated a cost of<br />
$43,193,503.09 to build the hindenberg today!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rubens Martins Borges Filho</title>
		<link>http://www.airships.net/hindenburg#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Rubens Martins Borges Filho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dan,

Thanks for the photo from the  Daimler-Benz
 diesel engine, 890 kW (1,200 hp) of the Hindenburg.
Rubens Borges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dan,</p>
<p>Thanks for the photo from the  Daimler-Benz<br />
 diesel engine, 890 kW (1,200 hp) of the Hindenburg.<br />
Rubens Borges.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan (Airships.net)</title>
		<link>http://www.airships.net/hindenburg#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan (Airships.net)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Eliot:

Thanks for the compliment!

As to the cost of building the Hindenburg in today&#039;s currency... that would be quite a task even for a highly qualified cost accountant.  

Even determining how much it cost to build Hindenburg in the 1930&#039;s is a challenge; which expenses do you include?  And do you take the expenses in 1930&#039;s Reichsmarks and just try to convert those figures into a modern currency? 

Or are you asking how much it would cost to build the Hindenburg today?  And if so, do you mean an exact reproduction -- using obsolete technology despite the passage of time?  Or do you mean a modern-day functional equivalent, where the Echolot is replaced by a Radar Altimeter?  &lt;G&gt;

But to simplify --- Charles Rosendahl wrote that the Hindenburg cost $2,600,000 to build.  (See, Rosendahl, What About the Airship?, p 154.)  

Of course, converting that figure to current dollars is itself tricky, since different economists use different approaches to inflating prices; you can visit &lt;a href=&quot;http://eh.net/hmit/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://eh.net/hmit&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/&lt;/a&gt; to learn more about the various approaches.  But using Rosendah&#039;s figure of $2.6 million, and the various calculators at measuringworth.com, that yields a range from $43 million to $657 million in 2009 dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Eliot:</p>
<p>Thanks for the compliment!</p>
<p>As to the cost of building the Hindenburg in today&#8217;s currency&#8230; that would be quite a task even for a highly qualified cost accountant.  </p>
<p>Even determining how much it cost to build Hindenburg in the 1930&#8217;s is a challenge; which expenses do you include?  And do you take the expenses in 1930&#8217;s Reichsmarks and just try to convert those figures into a modern currency? </p>
<p>Or are you asking how much it would cost to build the Hindenburg today?  And if so, do you mean an exact reproduction &#8212; using obsolete technology despite the passage of time?  Or do you mean a modern-day functional equivalent, where the Echolot is replaced by a Radar Altimeter?  <g></p>
<p>But to simplify &#8212; Charles Rosendahl wrote that the Hindenburg cost $2,600,000 to build.  (See, Rosendahl, What About the Airship?, p 154.)  </p>
<p>Of course, converting that figure to current dollars is itself tricky, since different economists use different approaches to inflating prices; you can visit <a href="http://eh.net/hmit/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/eh.net');">http://eh.net/hmit</a> or <a href="http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.measuringworth.com');">http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/</a> to learn more about the various approaches.  But using Rosendah&#8217;s figure of $2.6 million, and the various calculators at measuringworth.com, that yields a range from $43 million to $657 million in 2009 dollars.</g></p>
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