Titanic and Hindenburg

People often compare Titanic and Hindenburgthere was even a film called Hindenburg: Titanic of the Skies. But while both are best remembered for their dramatic disasters, these two passenger ships otherwise had little in common.

On the anniversary of the sinking of Titanic — April 14-15, 1912 —  a brief comparison of the two ships.

Titanic Hindenburg Comparison

  • Titanic: Sank on Maiden Voyage

  • Hindenburg: 62 Successful Flights

Titanic famously sank on her maiden voyage; the ship never once saw the port she was designed to visit, New York.

There is a common misconception that Hindenburg crashed on its maiden voyage as well, but in fact the airship was lost on its 63rd flight, having made many successful voyages between Europe and North and South America.

  • Titanic Death Toll: 68% Died

  • Hindenburg Death Toll: 36% Died

Titanic was a tragedy both in terms of the number of people who died — 1517 men, women, and children perished in the sinking — and also the tragically low rate of survival: Only 32% of the souls on board Titanic survived, and the death toll was even higher for certain groups; only 25% of third class passengers and 24% of the crew survived the sinking.

While Hindenburg’s fiery destruction may have looked unsurvivable to those on the ground, and to people watching films of the disaster, 64% of the passengers and crew survived the accident. Of the 97 persons on board the airship when it burned, only 35 died in the disaster (along with one civilian on the ground).

  • Titanic: Built for Luxury, Not Speed

  • Hindenburg: Built for Speed, Not Luxury

Titanic was built for size and luxury. The White Star ship was never going to win any speed records, but provided passengers with space and luxury never before seen on any ocean liner. Passengers looking for speed in 1912 would have chosen Cunard’s Mauretania or Lusitania rather than Titanic.

Titanic Cabin compared to Hindenburg Cabin

Titanic Cabin | Hindenburg Cabin

Hindenburg was built for one purpose: to cross the ocean faster than any other passenger vessel in the world. The airship’s passenger accommodations were certainly comfortable, and astounding when compared to a modern jetliner, but not luxurious when compared to an ocean liner; the ship’s windowless cabins were about the size of a small railway compartment and passengers shared public bathrooms one deck below. Passengers looking for luxury would have chosen Normandie or Queen Mary, but Hindenburg was more than twice as fast: while the fastest ocean liners of the era took about five days to cross the Atlantic, Hindenburg’s fastest crossing took less than 43 hours.

  • Titanic: Conservative Design

  • Hindenburg: Cutting Edge Innovation

Titanic was not a technologically innovative ship; she was basically a larger version of ships that had gone before. Titanic’s main power plant was a tried-and-true triple-expansion reciprocating steam engine (although she had a small turbine powering her center propeller) and most of the ship’s notable features and systems — such as her watertight subdivisions and Marconi radio installation — had been used on previous liners.

Hindenburg, in contrast, represented the cutting edge of airship technology, and was one of the most capable aircraft of any kind in its time. Hindenburg had advanced engines, an auto-pilot, and a sonar altimeter among other innovations, and the zeppelin could carry a greater payload a farther distance than any other aircraft of its day. Though the technology of the airship itself was rapidly becoming obsolete, Hindenburg was the summit of airship development.

  • Titanic: 882 feet, 2500 passengers

  • Hindenburg: 808 feet, 72 passengers

Titanic was a little more than 882 feet in length, with a beam of 92.5 feet, and could carry approximately 2,500 passengers.

Hindenburg was roughly the same size — the ship was approximately 808 feet in length, with a diameter of 135 feet — but had berths for only 72 passengers.

  • Titanic: The Beginning of a Golden Age

  • Hindenburg: The End of an Era

Titanic was the beginning of a golden age of transatlantic ocean liners. Titanic’s sister ship Olympic had a distinguished career that lasted until 1935, and the next decades saw a succession of larger and faster ships that included Bremen and Europa, Normandie, Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth, United States, Queen Elizabeth 2, and France.

Hindenburg was the last airship ever to carry passengers across an ocean. Hindenburg’s near-identical sister ship LZ-130 Graf Zeppelin never carried a paying passenger and was dismantled in 1940.

****

Illustration of Hindenburg courtesy of artist Max Pinucci, creator of the beautiful new book AIRSHIPS: Designed for Greatness.

 

 

4 3 votes
Article Rating
Subscribe
Notify of
guest

15 Comments
newest
oldest most voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Dr. E. Bernard
Dr. E. Bernard
7 years ago

The main difference between the two is the fact that the Titanic was superseded in size and luxury , BUT the Hindenburg is still the Largest man-made object to ever fly .. 242 tons of luxury that rose among the clouds With a Grace and magnificence never to be seen again ….

Andrew Learmonth
Andrew Learmonth
7 years ago
Reply to  Dr. E. Bernard

The Hindenburg wasn’t luxurious. In any shape or form.

Moi
Moi
5 years ago

Actually, the Hindenburg was luxurious
Flying across the Atlantic on the airship Hindenburg was the fastest and most luxurious way to travel between Europe and America in the 1930’s. The much larger “A Deck” contained promenades, a dining room, a lounge, a writing room, and 25 double-berthed passenger cabins. And those are only some of the luxuries on there.

If you still don’t believe me, just look up “Was the Hindenburg luxurious?”, and you’ll see that I’m right.

Mr Andrew Learmonth
Mr Andrew Learmonth
5 years ago
Reply to  Moi

You can’t even compare the Hindenburg with passenger liners in terms of luxury lol!!
Airships are 10 levels below passenger liners.

PhilC
PhilC
2 years ago
Reply to  Dan Grossman

….and ocean liners offered their passengers freedom from being airsick!

Andrew Learmonth
Andrew Learmonth
4 years ago
Reply to  Moi

Hi there, look, I know the Hindenburg was luxurious compared to any other airships and a huge step as airships go.
I actually have a soft spot for the Hindenburg.
My comment wasn’t meant to sound mean. This is why I hate typing like this, as the written word can sound rather harsh, because the context is different and you don’t see the person.
I just meant compared to the likes of an ocean liner, the level of luxury is incomparable.
So, I’m sorry my friend, I was just pointing out that the luxurious interiors of Titanic and the Hindeburg are on completely different levels.
It’s not good to compare both ships on that score.

If we were having this conversation face to face, it would be 10 times more friendly than the written words sound. 😊

Gia and jueLle
Gia and jueLle
9 years ago

thank you for these wonderful things about the Hindenburg and the Titanic thanks again

Michael L. Hopp
Michael L. Hopp
10 years ago

The popular comparison between the two likely has to do with the truly large scale of both vessels. Granted, as you noted, many an ocean liner would be larger than Titanic, but in her time she lived up to her name. Both were majestic, greatly noted for their elegance to the eye, and both vessels made an immediate impression to those who witnessed them. This is perhaps why so many consider the Hindenburg to be the “Titanic of the Sky”, along with the unfortunate fate of both ships.

Perhaps, at least in regards to the timing of their loss, the more accurate comparison to Titanic would be the infamous R101, indeed lost on it’s maiden voyage, with a tragic loss of life higher than Titanic by percentage. R101 is less known to the public, however, as there were no cameras rolling, no radiomen recording, when and where she met her demise. For this reason, Hindenburg will always remain as infamous as Titanic, even though the R101 is more worthy of the comparison.

In technical terms, however, R101 was far more like Hindenburg than Titanic. The ship included many novel, if not well tested, ideas. Many of which were considered cutting edge in terms of dirigible design. It was in no small part that the British ship was doomed due to it’s over-engineering and experimental devices. Sadly for the British airship scheme, the hubris and needless engineering of the vessel’s designers and operators doomed her. A trait perhaps comparable to Mr. Ismay and the White Star Line’s attitude towards Titanic.

Pete Braun
Pete Braun
7 years ago

Actually, the events that led to the respective demises of both vehicles are quite similar, so there actually is some justification in comparing the two in that regard.
Obviously the weather played a role in the disasters. But pushing the limits of the performance of both machines contributed, too. With the Hindenburg, the strong headwinds encountered over the Atlantic and the delayed landing due to the storm over Lakehurst put immense pressure on the crew on the flight deck to keep to the schedule, as Ernst Lehmen definitely influenced Captain Max Pruss’ decisions on the flight schedule and speed of the ship. Similarly, Joseph Bruce Ismay, whose father, Thomas Henry, resurrected the White Star Line from bankruptcy, is believed to have pressured Captain Edward John Smith to push the Titanic to its limits.
How, you ask? Well, over the years, a legend has arisen that the Titanic was trying to set a Trans-Atlantic record on her maiden voyage. Which isn’t so, since there was no chance of the Titanic approaching the speed of either the Lusitania or the Mauretania. But pretty good evidence has come to light that the Titanic was trying to beat the record set by her sister ship, the Olympic, when that ship made her own maiden voyage.
For more information on this, watch Titanic: The Complete Story. I have a VHS copy back home in Michigan, and it can be found on YouTube. It’s a two-parter and is very informative. But make sure you have plenty of spare time, as each segment is about 1 hour, 35 minutes in length.

Andrew Learmonth
Andrew Learmonth
4 years ago
Reply to  Pete Braun

Hello there, Pete.
I’m a Titanic historian, whose finally just about to publish my first book. I also work at Titanic Belfast and have researched the Olympic Class for 40 years.
It’s known from Frederick Barrett and the crew that Titanic’s 4 single ended boilers were never lit.

This is the problem with a lot of these documentaries my friend, I always find them to be full of mistakes and unfortunately it’s to juice up the story.
It’s best to stick to the original historical accounts and what the crew and survivors said.
Bruce Ismay has always been passed off as a blundering snob who was a coward. The real truth is rather different.
Everytime I watch documentaries, it has me shaking my head at how bad the research is.
I wish they’d just be honest about what really happened during the sinking.

Neil Hemstad
Neil Hemstad
10 years ago

What is sad is that the majority of people seem to believe that the Hindenburg crashed on its maiden voyage to the U.S. while it had a very successful first season of flying in 1936 and several flights in 1937 before the crash.The sinking of the Titanic did not spell the end of ocean liners the crash of the Hindenburg due to the unique conditions of the germans not being able to accuire helium meant that it was not possible to continue passenger flights with airships.Had helium been made available then flights would have resumed in 1938 and have lasted until late August 1939 leaving a much better legacy of airship travel.

Hendrick Stoops
Hendrick Stoops
10 years ago
Reply to  Neil Hemstad

The majority of my friends, I am convinced, believe that the Hindenburg crashed right after taking off, and there are many people who know virtually nothing of the golden age of airships. In reality, it was not feasible to end the transatlantic steamship trade, as there were no alternatives to the large liners. The Hindenburg, sad as it is to consider, was among the last breed of large passenger airships, with the swift advancement of heavier-than-air transportation which would, in a few years, be skyrocketed by the needs of the Second World War. I am confident that, as you stated, flights would have resumed with the Graf Zeppelin II, had the ships in Galveston been given permission to sail for Germany, laden with helium. As it happens, it’s interesting to consider whether or not the United States would have allowed further flights, had the Graf II been put into passenger service using hydrogen. After all, Dr. Eckener was, as I recall, the one who ordered the grounding of the Graf Zeppelin, as well as all further ships, until helium could be procured.

Chances are, the advent of World War II would have spelled the end of zeppelins before the completion of LZ-131, much as it did in reality. The United States, already out of the rigid airship business by 1935, would probably have refrained from renewing their commitment. A brighter alternate future would, I think, have been the continuation of the US airship program, probably by rewriting history and “butterflying” away the crashes of either the Akron, Macon, or both. There’s a slight chance that, had both ships eventually proved their worth, development on the larger ZRCV class would have come to fruition. Had those ships survived the war, there is an equally slight chance (given the advent of jets, first in military, then, by 1949, passenger use) that their kind would have gone on to serve the cargo-carrying role that now promises the advent of new, large airships. However, I guess hindsight is 20/20, and it’s far easier to see the potential benefits – and shortcomings – of the large rigids through the lens of history.

Best regards.

Pete Braun
Pete Braun
9 years ago

Wasn’t the Los Angeles still in service at the time? I heard the demises of the Akron and Macon pressed the LA back into service.

Andrew Learmonth
Andrew Learmonth
4 years ago
Reply to  Neil Hemstad

Yes, everything you said was true and ita rather sad things happened the way they did.
Personally, I’d love to see the likes of huge zeppelins floating across the skies.
I’d be pretty awestruck to see something so large in the air.

I just think it’s not fair to compare the luxury of Titanic to the Hindenburg. Both of them are miles apart and I feel it’s a little disingenuous to compare them on that score.

I can’t think why so many people have voted your comment down, when everything you’ve said is true. 🤔